Okra Seeds, Whidby White

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Whidby White (Abelmoschus esculentus): “White” okra varieties were once favorites across the South, but fell out of favor with the advent of industrial agriculture, and many were lost. Whidby White was once one of these lost varieties, but has been recovered thanks to the work of the Seed Savers Exchange, Chris Smith of the Utopian Seed Project, and a whole community of seed stewards who helped bring it back! It’s a productive and tasty okra that has a little inherent diversity and has been grown in the region since 2018. Jamie Swofford of Old North Farm grows it as a market staple. Approximately 60 days to harvest. 

Germination Rate: -

Weight (avg. seeds): 6 g (70)

Grower: Matt Wallace

Rabbit Den Farm, Marshall, NC

Matt has been seed saving and organizing seed swaps in WNC for 15+ years. He is involved with a group that stewards 3 seed libraries in Madison County and and is working towards creating a county wide (or perhaps WNC wide) seed savers network to coordinate seed saving and sharing efforts for community use. He also grows seeds commercially and runs a plant nursery. Located in Marshall, NC Rabbit Den Farm is an ecologically driven plant nursery and mixed vegetable farm with a focus on fall storage crops and heirloom corn.

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Whidby White (Abelmoschus esculentus): “White” okra varieties were once favorites across the South, but fell out of favor with the advent of industrial agriculture, and many were lost. Whidby White was once one of these lost varieties, but has been recovered thanks to the work of the Seed Savers Exchange, Chris Smith of the Utopian Seed Project, and a whole community of seed stewards who helped bring it back! It’s a productive and tasty okra that has a little inherent diversity and has been grown in the region since 2018. Jamie Swofford of Old North Farm grows it as a market staple. Approximately 60 days to harvest. 

Germination Rate: -

Weight (avg. seeds): 6 g (70)

Grower: Matt Wallace

Rabbit Den Farm, Marshall, NC

Matt has been seed saving and organizing seed swaps in WNC for 15+ years. He is involved with a group that stewards 3 seed libraries in Madison County and and is working towards creating a county wide (or perhaps WNC wide) seed savers network to coordinate seed saving and sharing efforts for community use. He also grows seeds commercially and runs a plant nursery. Located in Marshall, NC Rabbit Den Farm is an ecologically driven plant nursery and mixed vegetable farm with a focus on fall storage crops and heirloom corn.

USA Shipping Only | $5 Flat Rate or FREE Shipping on Orders over $45 | Our collective members pack and ship the seeds together. First Ship Date, Feb 15, 2025.

In 2018, Seed Savers Exchange sent Chris Smith (executive director and big time okra fan) a packet of  Whidley White Okra seeds. The variety was described as having some mixed up genetics (potential cross pollination or varietal drift). Chris’ task was to grow out the seeds and select the phenotype most consistent with what was thought to be Whidley White: a pale (white) stubby okra pod with deep ridges. This was part of Seed Savers Exchange Restoration Project.

The seed was first donated to SSE in the late 1980s by Mrs. H.L. Jarrard of Oakwood, GA with very little information beyond the variety being in one family since the mid-1800s. In 2012 Seed Savers Exchange tried to track down relatives of the original donor and hit a dead end. In 2021 Chris Smith took up the cold case and had some intense Googling and a random phone call led to a break through which renamed the okra to Whidby White – see the blue box below: Whidley White becomes Whidby White!

An 1832 article in the Genesee Farmer and Gardener’s Journal titled “Okra”, noted that white okra was considered “supreme” in the south. White Velvet is a well known variety from the late 1800s and has been boarded onto the Slow Food Ark of Taste. Another variety that is missing (assumed extinct) is White Lightning. White Lightning okra was a variety bred by Hastings Seed Co. (back to Georgia!) and it won an All American Selections award in 1932. That happens to be the same year that Clemson Spineless won the award, and makes White Lightning one of only seven varieties in all time to receive the AAS accolade. If you have knowledge of this variety then please get in touch!

Whidley White Becomes Whidby White....

In the late 1980s Seed Savers Exchange received seeds from a Mrs. H.L. Jarrard of Oakwood, GA with very little information beyond the variety being in one family since the mid-1800s and it was called Whidley White. Chris Smith recently took up the cold case of trying to track down the family and some intense Googling led to him connecting with Joey Duran and his wife Tammy Duran. Joey is Mrs. H.L. Jarrard’s nephew and lives in the house where she grew up. Joey was able to fill in a lot of the family background, including the revelation that Whidley is highly likely the wrong name for this okra.

Mrs. H.L. Jarrard’s name was Vera Jarrard, married to Harvey Lou Jarrard. Vera Jarrard died in 2002. Vera’s brother (Joey Duran’s father) was Walter R. Duran (born 1931, married to Winnie Duran). Walter died in 1999 and his obituary notes, “Walter enjoyed working on his farm, growing a garden, riding on his tractor, wood working as well as tinkering with old trucks and clocks.” Walter’s mother, Ethel Whidby Duran, was born in 1892 married Jack C. Duran. Ethel’s father was Joseph W. Whidby (born 1856) and is the possible originator of this family heirloom (or perhaps his father….). So, this variety should almost certainly be called Whidby White and not Whidley White (we assume it was a typo, mis-hearing, or mis-reading of the original name).

We still don’t have a physical description of the okra, neither Joey nor Vera’s daughter (Melinda) have memories of a specific okra grown by their respective father/mother. However Walter Duran was a big time gardener and seed saver and Joey still has access to a freezer full of seeds that his father kept. In 2021 we grew out some of those okra seeds and compare to our ‘Whidley/Whidby’ White. Sadly they turned out to be a generic Clemson-Spineless-esque okra. 

Community Seed Selection

In 2021 260 volunteers across the USA grew Whidby White and joined a community seed selection effort. Each volunteer received a seed selection kit to help hunt for the palest pod. The project was extremely successful and when all the seeds were recombined we had achieved a relatively uniform pale podded okra!